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Structure for film adaptations Jerimee PaperHuman DaxServer BeLucky Fuzheado dseomn Keplersj Sriveenkat RealityBites Jakeob9000 Demadrend Haseeb Carlinmack Supaplex Ontogon Ranjithsiji Gnoeee Spinster Sidohayder Mathieu Kappler Rockpeterson M2k~dewiki, mostly focus on media historiography and works from the Global South Wallacegromit1 Sotiale 2le2im-bdc Trivialist ɲɤʂ CptViraj Antoine2711 T7Tris Wolverène Shisma Bodhisattwa U+1F350 Andreasmperu GardenerAmaryllis putnik Jobu0101 Mbch331 Rogi Danrok Queryzo Mushroom Ermanon LydiaPintscher ValterVB== Active users == participants of WikiProject Movies Notified Hi all, How to model adaptations? I'm not a specialist (I work more often on books in Wikidata), but if I understand correctly, there is right now 2 concurrent methods : (Q1257444)film adaptation = (P136)genre = origin work item(P144)based on . The first method is alos more explicit (it says "this is adapted from this particular work" while the second one only says "it adapted from something"). This method is also more simple and direct. (Q1257444)film adaptation = (P136)genre but only 3 793 items have (P144)based on The first method is more common. On 266 493 item on movies (and subclasses) movies, 7 077 have a (is there any references for this? as an amateur, it feels more like a technic or a process than a genre). (Q201658)film genre is really a (Q1257444)film adaptation for films adapted from video games) and I even wonder if (Q1257444)film adaptation , about the question of the use - or not - of Archimëa and El Caro, MovieFexMy point of view, is that we should only stick to the first method which seems to me « necessary and sufficient » to model reality (while the second is not necessary nor sufficient). Plus, the second one raised some other problems (see recent discussions with ?). Wikidata:WikiProject Movies/Properties is already here so we don't loose information). And to write it somewhere (maybe (P144)based on (obviously, after carefull check that the (Q1257444)film adaptation = (P136)genre All together, I'm proposing to remove all the What do you think? 09:12, 24 April 2018 (UTC)) talk (VIGNERONCdlt, : I agree with you. Only the main genres should be added. I think, some misunderstand "genre at Wikidata" and "Wikipedia category". Look at this exemple below. There are realy a lot of genres, redundant, sometimes silly. There is even not a single page that do not need to be modified. '( Who could correct all this ?Danrok@ who mainly contributes at Wikipedia in German might have modified this for this reason.MovieFex (example is de.wiki and es.wiki...). books adapattion ONLY is restricted for (Q1257444)film adaptation confirms imo this statement. But in other languages, (Q1257444)film adaptation linked to (Q8126463)Category:Films based on works = (P910)topic's main category looks like to encompass every kind of works, not only books. The general category (wich includes books, video games, comics...) (Q1257444)film adaptation I also noticed that english description of 18:01, 24 April 2018 (UTC)) talk (VIGNERON in 2015 (and everything without references nor explanation that I can see, and there has been a lot of changes on other values for P31 and P279...). Cdlt, Michiel1972, then added again by Andreasmperu...), then removed by (P279)subclass of in 2014 (when there was already a DavidMar86hdf is a side problem for me here (the cherry on the cake) but still can someone provide references to sort this out? Looking at the histroy, I see it has been added by ⟩ (Q201658)film genre ⟨ (P31)instance of ⟩ (Q1257444)film adaptation ⟨ 15:31, 24 April 2018 (UTC)) talk (Danrok Genres: where to draw the line? is not a genre. In general, I think we have too many genres, and if anything it is unhelpful. There are no accepted standards regarding film genres, so it is somewhat vague. My view is we should go about this the same way as professionals do, and stick to the main genres, drama, thriller, action, horror, etc. and define more specific claims using well defined properties. Take a look at (Q1257444)film adaptation In my opinion,
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