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]reply[10:20, 27 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (Hjartcurrently finds ~700 ships registered in Denmark. The vast majority have actual names and some have good descriptions, which are very helpful for quickly understanding exactly which ship this is. Those that you have touched (currently ~15), only have labels saying "IMO xxxxxxx". Nothing that could possibly ring a bell to a normal human being. While your system may appear "logical" to you, it unfortunately ignores the needs of other wikidata users.--]reply[15:24, 30 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (HjartI find it very usefull.-- ]reply[12:18, 30 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (Wolfgang FrickeWhat a mess for a data base!--, which explains labels and the purpose of them. You can also just use the name under which the ship is or was most commonly known and list less commonly used names as aliases. Please note that IMO numbers are not names and should never be used as labels. Help:LabelPlease see 1. Why should the last name be the best choice? Regarding the "MOL Elbe", it is not the current name as she was scrapped long ago. Sometimes a ship served long with a famous name and served the last years under another name for a different company. In extreme cases the name is changed when the ship is sold to the breakers - often simply deleting one or more letters. I cannot see any advantage to use such names in many cases. For me it is no problem if I am convinced of a better system. But I still don't understand the following: ]reply[21:34, 28 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (Hjart.--Wikidata:Project chatI strongly recommend that you scrap the system you've been following and seek advice on how to design a better system over at ]reply[21:09, 28 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (Hjart. commons:Category:IMO 8912247" (or whatever it's called in your language) in the lower part of the infobox in authority data belong in the label section. Please note that this identifier is displayed under "not. This is where the IMO number belongs. The IMO number does (P458)IMO ship number should display the ships current name, while previous names should be kept as aliases. Please note the identifier (Q86084829)MOL Elbe . The rest of your edits to that ship were destructive though. Ideally the item (Q86084829)MOL Elbe Sorry about removing the image of ]reply[20:08, 28 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (Wolfgang FrickeThis is again an example where the label 'MOL Elbe' is misleading, because the ship has changed its name. Some data, i.e. the photo, does not refer to "MOL Elbe", but to the ship with IMO 8912247! It was not right from you to delete the photo of "Elbe" from the Wikidata description! Shall I also speak of vandalism? ]reply[17:45, 27 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (HjartPlease stop accepting it. I really think it needs to be scrapped and reconsidered. ]reply[17:16, 27 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (Wolfgang FrickeHjart, please accept that it is not 'my system'. Others have introduced it before me, applying it many thousend times. I only follow this philosophy after having accepted it. ]reply[15:24, 30 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (HjartI do not understand what you mean by that. Give me an example please.-- ]reply[12:16, 30 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (Wolfgang FrickeThat is not what I meant. Some people assigned the different names to the respective language of the country of registry, which would be the case if you would use the label "Bremen" for German and "Regina Magna" for Greece. ]reply[19:06, 29 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (Hjart. It's spelled differently in various languages. Wikidata allows everyone to find exactly this item, regardless of how it's spelled in their particular language. This is one of the strengths of Wikidata.--(Q1748)Copenhagen Please see the item for the Danish capital An observation: Several users have placed the different names of a ship under the language of the respective home country - very strange. ]reply[15:24, 30 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (Hjart should be changed to "Fort la Reine" and an meaningful description should be added, because otherwise it will not be usefull in a query.--(Q106318361)Fort La Reine ) 15:24, 30 November 2021 (UTC) Please also note that bots usually do very simple jobs. Getting the data in perfect shape requires human interaction. The label of talk (HjartI think you should ask the bot operator why he's doing it like that. Please be aware though that the operator of this bot handles a lot of other jobs and may not be aware of everything the bot is doing.-- ]reply[22:11, 29 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (Wolfgang FrickeOne example is (Q106318361), belonging to the ship Fort la Reine (ship, 1969), IMO 6815990. ]reply[19:06, 29 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (HjartCan you please point me to an example? My guess is that this could very well be due to misunderstandings of the purpose of Wikidata.-- ]reply[17:06, 29 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (Wolfgang Fricke2. When creating the Wikidata Infobox on the page of a category IMO ..., then the IMO number appears as label. This is systematic. I guess that more than one thousand Infoboxes were created for the categories inputted by myself, most of them automatically by a bot. Why is that done if it is not wanted? ]reply[15:24, 30 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (Hjart.--(Q1850346)Odense Stadium Football stadiums are also frequently renamed. See for example ]reply[12:27, 30 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (Wolfgang FrickeRegarding the question where data belong to, I like to add that there is a field for the official name (P1448). Here several names can be put in, together with start and end dates, which is important for data not lasting over the whole life. ]reply[19:06, 29 November 2021 (UTC)) talk (HjartAlso please note that you have removed a lot of valuable data, which I really think should be restored.-- claim: (P458)IMO ship number The following query finds all items in wikidata with a
Use at
- https://query.wikidata.org/sparql
PREFIX wikibase: <http://wikiba.se/ontology#>
PREFIX wdt: <http://www.wikidata.org/prop/direct/>
PREFIX bd: <http://www.bigdata.com/rdf#>
SELECT ?ship ?shipLabel ?shipDescription ?IMO_shipnumber WHERE {
SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
?ship wdt:P458 ?IMO_shipnumber. }