query-1e32fee3695dcabd6e8c45dd662f7bf4
Distinction between manuscripts and worksHello, . (Q21100168)Goleniscev Papyrus which is transmitted on (Q21100150)Alexandrian World Chronicle and (Q21100575)Egyptian Museum and Papyrus Collection, P 13296 which is transmitted on (Q21100459)Berlin Chronicle . Obviously it would be a good idea to create distinct items for (a) the work (as an abstract concept) and (b) the textual witness it is transmitted in. While this distinction may seem artificial to some, it is in my opinion the best way going forward. Examples how to do this are (Q657420)Cologne Mani-Codex . A prominent example is (Q47461344)written work and (Q87167)manuscript while trying to improve our data on ancient written works, I sometimes come across items that conflate The reason I'm writing this here is that I am unsure what to do with existing sitelinks. Wikipedia articles notoriously conflate textual witnesses and the works they transmit. I can think of two solutions: (which is often used as illustration).textual witnessKeep sitelinks on the old item and make it a dedicated item for the (as this is what most readers will be interested in)workKeep sitelinks on the old item and make it a dedicated item for the 14:14, 15 September 2023 (UTC)) talk (Jonathan GroßThoughts? 08:03, 16 September 2023 (UTC) dosisEpìGiven that it is a complex problem, I would have a slight preference for 2: when a sitelink conflates many concepts which have distinct items in Wikidata, I usually try to move the sitelink to the item which corresponds more precisely to the title and the incipit of the sitelink. Since articles regarding manuscripts and the work(s) inside them usually are titled with the name of the manuscript and have an incipit like "X is a manuscript etc.", I think 2 is slightly better and probably also the most intuitive one for users to be applied. Anyway, disentangling these will require a lot of effort :( -- 08:08, 16 September 2023 (UTC)) talk (Jonathan Groß would be a good starting point. (Q7356868)Category:Papyrus Perhaps we could make a subpage for these cases and document what we're about to do there? Checking the items from 11:55, 16 September 2023 (UTC)) talk (Jonathan Groß. (Q87167)manuscript (P31)instance of and (Q47461344)written work (P31)instance of could help listing items that have both Database reportAlso, a https://w.wiki/7U7nHere is a SPARQL query doing just that:
Use at
- https://query.wikidata.org/sparql
PREFIX wikibase: <http://wikiba.se/ontology#>
PREFIX wdt: <http://www.wikidata.org/prop/direct/>
PREFIX wd: <http://www.wikidata.org/entity/>
PREFIX ps: <http://www.wikidata.org/prop/statement/>
PREFIX p: <http://www.wikidata.org/prop/>
PREFIX bd: <http://www.bigdata.com/rdf#>
SELECT DISTINCT ?item ?itemLabel WHERE {
SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE]". }
{
SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE {
?item p:P31 ?statement0.
?statement0 (ps:P31/(wdt:P279*)) wd:Q47461344.
?item p:P31 ?statement1.
?statement1 (ps:P31/(wdt:P279*)) wd:Q87167.
}
}
}